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futbolplayer 08-15-2019 01:03 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
If others want me to continue posting, please chime in. Otherwise, I'll take negativity as not an interested topic on this forum

nickopedia 08-15-2019 01:12 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1026740)
If others want me to continue posting, please chime in. Otherwise, I'll take negativity as not an interested topic on this forum

Keep in mind there are many differing opinions and points of view on this forum. We don't want you to feel like you are being singled out or picked on. It's just the opinion of a couple here that gambling is not a means to an end. Again, that's their option. If it works for you, you should be proud of your accomplishments. No, I'm not being sarcastic or facetious. That's really what this forum is about, and we all learn something from each other. Thanks for your understanding.

ebaystealth1974 08-15-2019 01:25 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Gamble on! Just be careful, and real with yourself.

futbolplayer 08-15-2019 01:25 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Well for me gambling is a means to an end and not something done for enjoyment. In fact, I would say I am not a big fan of the game (see my first post). The game does allow me make money and thus pass that money into my internet ventures. Is is one aspect of risk taking that I employ with overall business. What is not to like?

The fact that I don't identify with being a poker player and have many other interests outside life allows me to have a strong mental game in poker. I have little ego, appreciate the money, and go home an work on my true passion. I just don't understand the hate. I do not spend a lot of time in casinos.

nickopedia 08-15-2019 01:36 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
A lot of it has to do with skill level, especially when you are talking about poker or blackjack.

The house edge in blackjack is around 0.5% if you use basic strategy. Of course, that 0.5% can go up or down based on your skill level. In fact, some "advantage players" can get it down even further with a few techniques that may or may NOT be welcomed by the casino! Card counting, or edge sorting comes to mind among other things. Those "things" can get you kicked out if you are caught.

just_smile 08-15-2019 01:36 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I don't think its unrealistic to make a modest living playing poker. You just need a LOT of discipline, and dedicate a LOT of time to it to negate any down swings and let the 'luck' element even itself out over time (oh, and be good at it, of course)

I'm interested in reading up on your exploits :)

futbolplayer 08-15-2019 02:51 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Just smile you seem to have some understanding of the game ��

ebaystealth1974 08-15-2019 03:39 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I used to help my dad learn his systems when I was little... 35 years ago, or more.

I remember him recalling an entire deck back to me, after I showed him each card... card after card. I don't have that kind of devotion to learn something like that! Nor do I care to play cards with someone that does.

futbolplayer 08-15-2019 06:23 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Just smile, I play a game theory style first and foremost, and then I’ll adjust play to make exploits during sessions.

I must emphasize how game theory optimal play is so important. Once GTO is understood, you play with a surreal sense of confidence because you know you are making the +EV play, and thus you could care less the actual outcome of an individual hand.

My best exploit is to watch opponents hands over time while playing with them. I can then classify a player as “loose” or “tight” and that will help me define the range of holdings against an opponent, and ultimately make the best decisions during hands.

An example of this is when you have KK and run into AA preflop. While it is a “cooler”, I can make folds if I know the opponent’s preflop 4-bet range is only KK+. I have folded KK many times preflop and known it to be the right play. I should also add I rarely fold KK preflop.

Another good exploit is known as “baluga theorem”. Essentially, this theorem
says if you bet the turn with top pair and get raised, you should probably fold. Against tight players, USE this exploit 100% of the time. Against good players, you must revert strategy back to game theory. Against aggressive players, you should probably call.

Improving your mental discipline game is also what I consider to be an exploit. While
You have learned to control losing chips due to tilt, our opponents will not have. As a result, when you notice an opponent is on tilt, you will know to get in a hand because he/she will not be at her best.

borosso 08-16-2019 05:28 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Weell my congrats man! But be careful don't lose your head!

futbolplayer 08-20-2019 12:45 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
ran a $20.00 promotional balance into $800.00 last week.

bagchaserfrank 08-21-2019 09:48 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
yeah it's a lot If you win that much a month...

Kajunrook 08-22-2019 05:26 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
If you have 25 cents in your checking acct and you win 25K , yeah that's a lot

FireInTheHole 09-11-2019 04:47 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Yes, skills and luck decide, but if it is an honest casino. The fact is that most casinos are real scammers and they do everything to get your money. Therefore, I recommend playing only at trusted and licensed casinos, like norgescasino.com/ . I have been playing here for a long time and have earned a lot of money and now I can buy a lot about what I dreamed earlier. I hope you will succeed too!

rsot 09-12-2019 06:34 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireInTheHole (Post 1033178)
Yes, skills and luck decide, but if it is an honest casino. The fact is that most casinos are real scammers and they do everything to get your money. Therefore, I recommend playing only at trusted and licensed casinos, like norgescasino.com/ . I have been playing here for a long time and have earned a lot of money and now I can buy a lot about what I dreamed earlier. I hope you will succeed too!

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

rsot 09-16-2019 06:01 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1033435)
That’s twice you’ve welcomed him. :coffee:

Oops thanks tinsoldier :doh:

BlackLion 10-31-2019 09:15 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1025646)
I would take the money and run. You say your wagers have been getting bigger and bigger so it's probably only a matter of time before you lose it all and have some mafia guy chasing after you trying to collect.

Aside from that 2.5yrs is a long time and you could have made that amount working at McDonalds without any risk.

EDIT: Or, AT LEAST, take the $25k you've made and set it aside, then start with $100 again and see if you can make $25k again.

It would take him 4 yrs at $500 take home monthly to reach 25k working at McDonald's. A part time Target worker would take 6 yrs to reach $25,000. I'd take the gambling risk lol.

Jamsym 10-31-2019 12:58 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
$25k from 2019 poker is very good.

I used to play for a living around 2007-2012 online. Games were so good back then.

Seems pretty dead these days

agent006140 11-01-2019 07:38 PM

Does stock picking qualify as gambling?
US Petrobras shareholders just got their check today,they won a suit against PBR -during the carwash scandal,if you have paid more than $3.50/share for PBR ,you are entitled to share the billions dollars settlement,does not matter if you sold it later at a gain or break even.

we shall see how much wealth (-wealth) Uber generates next week!

I just watched Havanna,ROBERT Redford played a gambler,then I watched Sting,21 and Rainman and Casino.
Gambling is addictive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielStone (Post 1050598)
Does anybody knows a good casino?

yes,the stock markets
Mrs.Wanatabe played and played it well

Tesla revealed its new truck and analysts deem it UGLY.
So,TSLA is tanking down 22 points!

I think it is beautiful,and the price is right,I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Many bought the stock expecting a big run up on Friday.

most gamblers lose money,thats how casinos manage to stay open,pay their bills and turn a profit.
Some do win,but they follow their rules ,you have to be very disciplined.
Someone once told me he read a book on how t o win poker,he followed the rules to the T and won,but when it said get up and leave,he decides to stay and keep playing! you know the rest.
Once I was at Caesar Palace and found a $25 token on the floor,I cashed it so I guess I WON !
Then I decided to keep looking for more tokens on the floor,there is a guy assigned to watch gamblers and my behavior caught his attention !

Originally Posted by futbolplayer View Post
I have managed to win this amount, combined live and online winnings within the last couple years playing part-time. My win rate is only getting better and I am starting to play higher stakes. Is this a lot of money to win from the game? Should I consider pursuing the game further even though I don’t find it enjoyable and view it as a waste of my time?
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if you view it as a waste of your time and you no longer enjoy the game,then why ask us?
why not just quit and do something else with your time-darning old socks,gardening or serve at soup kitchen?
Some folks love to go to the casinos,they like the lights,the noise,the decor,food,drinks and women,some just go to eat !or watch a show or watch others make fool of themselves losing $$

stocks are on sale now,DJ Industrial dropped 1473 points !

rsot 11-02-2019 10:02 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1045800)
Does stock picking qualify as gambling?
US Petrobras shareholders just got their check today,they won a suit against PBR -during the carwash scandal,if you have paid more than $3.50/share for PBR ,you are entitled to share the billions dollars settlement,does not matter if you sold it later at a gain or break even.

Stock picking is a different process since there is more data available and wealth is generated as opposed to pure gambling

RoyFollman 11-07-2019 02:02 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I will say the same thing - it IS possible, but you should spend a lot of time in this game. You need discipline and patience, because at first you will loose very often. I am playing poker for 5 years, and now I can really make for a living on poker. But, before I learned it, I have lost a big sum of money. Think twice before starting a poker "career".

karakurt 11-09-2019 08:57 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 1026749)
A lot of it has to do with skill level, especially when you are talking about poker or blackjack.

The house edge in blackjack is around 0.5% if you use basic strategy. Of course, that 0.5% can go up or down based on your skill level. In fact, some "advantage players" can get it down even further with a few techniques that may or may NOT be welcomed by the casino! Card counting, or edge sorting comes to mind among other things. Those "things" can get you kicked out if you are caught.

Yes, my friend you are right, in a casino you really do not like using strategies to win, but if you are a great poker or blackjack player, then you can use the same strategies in an online casino when playing with real people. For example, I tried to use my bluffing technique in a casino several times and they kicked me out and then I started playing
making bitcoin playing games. I played the same poker, but I bet not on dollars but on bitcoins and could win about 6000 bucks in a month . So it’s better to play in an online casino so that you are not kicked out for special techniques.

futbolplayer 11-11-2019 02:08 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Just punted off a stack unnecessarily at casino, pisses me off but it’s a rare leak and I was in a good upswing beforehand. I do not enjoy poker, I just need the money. I made $1400 last week playing. Gotta work on my mental game.

rsot 11-12-2019 06:17 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1047793)
Just punted off a stack unnecessarily at casino, pisses me off but it’s a rare leak and I was in a good upswing beforehand. I do not enjoy poker, I just need the money. I made $1400 last week playing. Gotta work on my mental game.

Did you play poker or other games?

futbolplayer 11-12-2019 09:58 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Only poker rsot, I’m not a gambler.

DanielStone 11-22-2019 10:07 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Does anybody knows a good casino?

rsot 11-23-2019 08:18 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1050653)
Tesla revealed its new truck and analysts deem it UGLY.
So,TSLA is tanking down 22 points!

Think this deserves its own thread :)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gearj...-1676x1118.jpg

Thermal 11-28-2019 05:34 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I had pretty a brief experience with pokerstars. I love this game, but it's hard to play online. There's usually a player who starts betting big stakes at the very beginning, so you either have to risk a lot and call him (by closing the stake) when the odds aren't too high, or you have to fold. It's not a very pleasant, so I don't bother gambling online anymore.

rsot 11-28-2019 07:05 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1050812)
The beholder in this case being a child and their Lego. :focus:

Hah - futuristic style :)

futbolplayer 12-03-2019 06:34 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Online poker is just much more difficult than live poker. I crush live poker and beat online poker, but I must work much harder to beat online poker. Players are much more serious online and are there to typically gamble less and take their poker more seriously.

At least 5K of my winning have come from online play though, the rest from live.

My winnings how now closed in on 30K

jporter396 12-09-2019 02:08 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
i have made roughly 30k a year the past 3 years sport betting. took a year of winning 20k and losing it all in a month to learn bankroll managment, but other do it, im sure poker is no different.

the biggest thing imo is it needs to be #3 or #4 in the list of income streams, otherwise there is too much pressure to bet recklessly to pay bills etc or get emotionala. all about the setup and having intense discipline

i could care less if i win or lose a bet as i have the savings and other income streams to handle anything and bet within my means.

good luck op

futbolplayer 12-22-2019 04:43 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Just focus on winning at games in which you have an edge, and this can become another form of income stream for you.

james_112233 12-22-2019 05:20 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Ive won a few thousand playing roulette over time. You have to have patience win a little amount and leave. Over time it all adds up. I just come in and do the martingale technique when I see 4 or 5 reds or black in a row and bet the opposite.

The only time you will see me at a casino is with friends on a night out and I have strict discipline. Wallet stays locked in the glovebox and I only take in the cash I am prepared to "lose" / "night out cash". And I buy my food and drinks straight away before playing.

rsot 12-22-2019 08:50 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Martingale....yikes but glad it's working out for you


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